In episode 17, we delve into the world of forgiveness and how we emotionally and mentally work through struggles as individuals, parents and a family.
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[00:01:59] We got time. I know a guy. We're always ready for a family tattoo. That would be a fun little TikTok to show our day of getting tattoos all together. That was a special special day. Yes. It really was. And I vomited. Oh yeah. I almost did. Yeah. You were a little green. Apparently you don't want to sit around for 15 hours
[00:02:27] before they start needling the bones on your chest and you haven't eaten. It was a long day. That's what I learned. That sounds awful. Yeah. So we talked earlier this week about starting a few different things and we maybe as a way of getting to know each other. First of all, we need to say who we are. So I used to be married to that guy. And I'm Jake. I used to be married to Toby. That's right.
[00:02:57] And now I'm married to Tiff. There was only like one week overlap. And I'm married to Jake who sits next to AJ. Yeah. And he's my man. That's my man. Look at all that marriage. Left and right. That was like three weeks over. We are pros at divorce and marriage. And separation. We've been through it all. Pros. We've been through it all. We're experienced. I don't know if we're pros. We've had something.
[00:03:25] And not just in our immediate family but my mom's been married six times. My dad's been married four times. There's a lot of marriage going on in our lives. Yeah. It's really beautiful. And why? Marriage. You know maybe. Love. Two of love. I was thinking maybe polygamy wasn't that bad because all they did was focus on the positive. You know no one's out here getting divorced. Like it's just like you know what. Just add another one. We're kind of bored. This isn't really working out. What if we just bring someone else in? How's Martha? Is she 18 yet? Another wife fixes everything.
[00:03:55] Yeah it's basically the same as playing PlayStation. Like you get tired of the two of you and you're just like who else could play? Yeah. You need a new player. Yeah. And another tax credit. Yeah. There should be something for that for polygamy. Like it's like married times six or whatever so you get a bigger discount. I like that. I just realized I think I manifested having a sister wife because I always grew up learning about the Mormon sister wives and I always thought like man that would be so nice
[00:04:24] to like split the responsibilities with another woman and I hit the jackpot on that. And we don't have to be married. We just get to help each other out. It's great. Win-win. Manifesting. So what are we doing first? Two truths and a lie. Oh that's right. But I do think today's polygamists like they're really good at working the system. Like whether it be tax credits or food stamps or yada yada yada.
[00:04:54] You apply with your one. I think that's usually how they get them into jail first. Really? Is by nab them for that and then trying to figure out how to charge them for the other stuff. Tax fraud or using whatever. We need to take more advantage of the government it sounds like. Me and my sister wife. I'm just kidding. Now realizing that I'm not okay with polygamists being oppressed. They should be out there loving whoever they want to. Free love. Whoever they want to. Yeah just leave the kids out of it.
[00:05:24] Not being one I didn't have much say but now I'm like now we need to defend the polygs. So when you were a Mormon you know like as far as the LDS believe and I'm not positive on this my LDS family and friends can correct me if I'm wrong but I think that they believe they'll have the wives in the other life still. You know like my dad is sealed in the temple to multiple women and I think the belief is that he'll be with them again. So when you were Mormon
[00:05:53] did you have the desire to be a polygamist? Oh God no. No just one. But my mom same thing. She my dad was married before and his wife passed away young like I think while pregnant or something. Yeah like complications. It was an issue. And my mom expressed to us kids that she believed that even though she never met that lady that it was like her best friend in heaven and that they were going to be sister wives together in heaven and I thought that was really interesting.
[00:06:25] Yeah different beliefs. Yeah. I feel like it's with Mormons and caffeine some of them will tell you that you're not allowed to have it and some of them will tell you that you are it just depends on which Mormon you ask on whether like I don't think it's a hard steadfast rule on it if you've been sealed to more than one woman in your life if you're guaranteed to have both of them on the other side. Yeah I don't know if that's doctrine I don't think anybody's going to be willing to just straight up say no leader would be willing to straight up say
[00:06:54] in my opinion. But I think it's also fair to to include that the current large Mormon religion does not practice polygamy. Yeah. It's against the rules. Fundamentalist. But my ancestors sorry my ancestors my great grandpa Guyman would tell us stories about living in Mexico as a kid because his family was polygamous and they outlawed it so my family moved to Mexico and he spoke Spanish and yeah
[00:07:24] interesting Chihuahua Mexico there was a Mormon settlement when they outlawed polygamy so So the way Taco Bell has the Chihuahua Yeah Probably It's all coming together Yep The Taco Bell dog doesn't drink coffee I guess It is a lot of sense Like sidebar but along with it The Bachelor Oh yeah What's her name? This is Marie Yes Very interesting
[00:07:54] I was wondering if any of my Mormon family is watching because we're excited to see her Yes They're doing Hometowns and it's an LDS girl who's one of the four finalists so they're going to go to her Mormon family in Utah Yeah See how that goes I'm curious She seems like a super sweetheart She does but like I love that Grant's nerves were the same as mine He's like I have tattoos I have piercings I'm like it's the same thing I thought before I met Jake's family I'm like
[00:08:24] they're not going to like me Oh my gosh My guess is that it'll be the like surprise that he's very well accepted is my guess Oh I think his family I hope so I like her And that'll probably make it more difficult to make a decision because it's like Oh what do I do? But yeah Yeah it's tough It's tough stuff Very drama-filled Yeah Not a big Bachelor Not into it It's fine Three gets Yeah
[00:08:52] I can't wash without champagne We do like champagne while we watch The Bachelor Yeah Alright what's your two truths and a lie honey? Well you'll never guess because that's how good they're going to be Alright I'll tell you Three very true things about me are One In fourth grade My fourth grade teacher kissed me on the lips Whoa
[00:09:22] Two would be that as an adult I got very drunk and went down a public water slide extremely naked and hundreds of people saw me do it and then Is that number two? Yeah Number three would be my very first day of kindergarten I got on the wrong bus and
[00:09:52] drove around for a couple of hours and then the bus driver found me and got me back to my mom eventually First day Yeah first day of kindergarten where was it? Are you okay? I don't know anymore A lot of those explain a whole lot Yeah I said they were all true This is gonna be good for us It's gonna ruin our whole relationship We're like ew Alright guys What is it? I think the lie
[00:10:21] is that in fourth grade your teacher kissed you on the lips Okay Yeah why did you kiss your fourth grade teacher? Was she hot? Were you into it? There's a lot there but I don't know that I can go into it until everybody's guessed She's in prison now He's the culprit What do you think Jake? I know I think He was the teacher? In fourth grade Well before you guess that You gotta know what these guys think over here
[00:10:51] We gotta know that guess I think the lie was the second one Water slide? Okay Water slide Naked Hundreds of people Hundreds of people Seeing you go down a slide That's a whole lot of people and not very many balls But I was leaning towards that being the lie as well I'm not gonna lie What was it honey?
[00:11:20] What did Jonah think? I don't care It was I know The lie is getting kissed by your fourth grade teacher That is actually You're right The lie So good job Yeah Tiff wins That is the lie I think he thought about it a few times The male fourth grade teacher He's actually my bishop Oh man That's hilarious Which would have been great as a true story but it's not So yeah
[00:11:50] The water slide story is absolutely true Yeah What you didn't know is that those hundreds of people were also naked So Yes That was okay We went on an adult only cruise that was mostly a bunch of swingers and they rented out an entire huge water park Like in Mexico In Mexico And everyone was buck naked including us And a DJ And an open bar
[00:12:19] And we were flying down fucking water slides Wow Buck naked Drunk It was so fun We had a blast We made friends Yeah Eyes up here You're stressing me out with your stories I was always like Eyes down here Why aren't you looking? We have had some fun times We've had some crazy friends That's for sure We have had crazy friends But it's all good Good job babe
[00:12:49] Thanks You fooled some of us Way to go So what are we talking about today? Not polygamy Forgiveness That's right Forgiveness That's a good topic And I feel like we're already halfway through the episode Yeah But we're getting there I forgive you for that Yeah Forgiveness is a toughie and I feel like my definition of forgiveness evolves
[00:13:18] as I evolve Agreed Yeah I think it has to and if it doesn't then you're not growing because and I think the real core lesson I've learned through the journey of life is that true forgiveness really cannot happen until you figure out how to forgive yourself for things because we hold on to all the things that other people do somewhere because we're not ready to tell ourselves we're okay with the things
[00:13:48] we messed up on or the things we could have done better and whatnot so we'll forgive and sometimes it even looks like very like for me it's always been like oh yeah forgive you no big deal whatever you know like I want to get past that quickly and be okay but then I'm not actually sitting in the feelings of like wow that hurt me or wow I was upset or whatever it was and so those things still stay and come back around at like a different time and I it catches me off guard or at a time where I don't want it to be there
[00:14:17] and now I have emotions around it that are negative or angry or whatever because I'm not actually going through the process of feeling the hard things and forgiving forgiving someone or doing that for myself first so that makes sense I think for me it does go back to a lot of forgiving myself but it also requires communication and it's not always directly communicating with
[00:14:46] the person who wronged us but within our family unit I think that has been a big part of our healing as a family is directly communicating about hard things and one specific time comes to mind you know not that long ago where sorry Jake and I pretty recently sat in his
[00:15:16] backyard in their backyard and just hashed out some things and I told Jake things that still hurt me from our relationship and he told me things that still hurt him from our relationship that I didn't even really understand or was I didn't fully I wasn't aware of the way that my behavior hurt him in a lot of ways and and through a very difficult time in our family we
[00:15:46] did not treat each other well and there's just a lot there and as we come together and try and work together as a family if we don't clear that stuff out it gets triggered and then we cannot be fully authentic with each other then we're faking if something gets triggered and so we are upset inside but we're having to be friendly and happy and that shit's exhausting and I hate it I hate
[00:16:15] faking it you know and so if we want to have a fully authentic flow as a family and truly enjoy each other as a family we have to communicate about hard things when they come up and they cannot just be resolved within ourselves or within our own partnerships and in doing that I think all of us hope that our children will also do that not just with each other
[00:16:45] but with us you know and our daughter when we were in Idaho recently all together brought up like that she has hard things come up and she doesn't know how to talk to us about those things and is it appropriate to come and bring you because she's like I don't want to make you feel bad for doing things that hurt me but I also want to feel better from them and we had a good conversation around that but I think
[00:17:15] even that communication is so healthy and important if we're going to truly cultivate an authentic and joyful family experience absolutely I love it thank you good work I think so much of what we naturally try to do in our society is to just sweep shit under the rug just like forgive without hashing it out or forget
[00:17:44] or both or don't do either but just not talk about it sweep it under the rug and try and move on and pretend that everything is okay fake it until you make it whatever it is one of a dozen things but Toby's right it is absolutely exhausting like unless you actually do honestly have that full on with each other and just like iron out all the kinks and sometimes
[00:18:13] it is to agree to disagree because you know during that hard conversation we didn't figure out every single category we were just like okay we're at a standstill on this one and we have to agree that it was 13 years ago and we're different people that care more now or trying harder now or and maybe we're remembering things different or remembering things wrong because we really can't
[00:18:43] figure it out can't really like get down to the nitty gritty and figure out what went wrong in whatever category it was sometimes you just have to agree to disagree absolutely for sure it just made me think of something we learned at one point during therapy or and it's not even really learned I mean it's stuff people know and words people use but I just not really approached relationships this way and forgiveness it's all good
[00:19:16] I forgot to put my I'm just using a different phone mine's going to be in two different we're good we just turned off an alarm so we're right back into it nobody stopped the video she just turned off an alarm it's the best that we can do with an alarm going off
[00:19:46] it automatically stops recording so we pushed record again and put it right back where it was but one thing that we learned during therapy when we were going together was the idea of the benefit of the doubt and like you hear that all the time like oh give you know I'll give them the benefit of the doubt or whatever it is but when we're talking about deep meaningful personal family relationships sometimes
[00:20:15] there's history there things that have happened like you said 13 years ago or you know like it's sometimes it has to be like leave the past in the past at a certain point what happens is we stop I believe giving the people we love and care about the benefit of the doubt that their intention is good that what they're trying to do is be helpful or you know the way they hurt us wasn't on purpose because the reality is if it was on purpose situation you know and so
[00:20:45] to look at everything as benefit of the doubt you know this person did this said this whatever it it hurt me what was the intention there what you know were they feeling frustrated or upset about something did they have a really hard day or whatever and they just let something out that they didn't even really mean or whatever going into trying to resolve something with somebody and get to a place of forgiveness is so much more helpful if you can look at that person and say okay they're trying their best
[00:21:15] and that's good with me you know it helps us let go of the things we want to hold on to that we're keeping ourselves safe with like oh this person said this did this whatever no like you're not going to hurt me with that again instead of being open and saying okay I totally understand that that's not what you're like and you wouldn't be that way on purpose towards me so I just want you to know it hurt you know and I appreciate you apologizing or whatever you know it might be that needs to be talked about benefit of the doubt has really helped me
[00:21:44] look at those situations differently than I did in the past that's a major thing that I've had to learn in our partnership but what what about when you feel like your ex is is not does not have your best interest at heart is being a jerk is you know treating you terribly what in a situation where your ex and you do not get along and they don't give a fuck
[00:22:14] about you and they're treating you bad and they're not you know those kinds of things where they're not doing what's best for your kid you're frustrated you're angry you've been abandoned whatever what does forgiveness look like in that situation you know I think that that's kind of what we were talking about a little bit with trying to be helpful through our experience is we can all look back however long ago it was 13 14 15
[00:22:42] years and say like okay yeah I wasn't handling that the best and in all these different ways that we're talking about on all these different episodes and it's the higher level thing to do to be able to recognize that earlier on and not later on and so when you're feeling like this person does not like me they're mad at me because they're my ex and they don't agree with this that whatever it might be that's where it's most important to try to figure out the benefit of the doubt yes I don't like them right now I
[00:23:12] yes I might feel like everything they're trying to do is to make my life harder but is it actually that or is it just that I'm upset because my kids are gone half the time because I don't have all the control in like teaching them the way I would like to or you know guiding them in life the way that I feel is best and like figuring out how to have the benefit of the doubt for an ex who you really might feel like doesn't have your best interests at heart but trying to find a place where you
[00:23:42] know they are your children's mom or dad or whatever and they love them too and how do we give the benefit of the doubt there to see that I might not be right and or all the time or you know I think it's it's doable it's just really hard and it's probably more important than than it is later on when it's easier to forgive and figure things out Toby I don't ask
[00:24:11] because you've ever been to an AA meeting for yourself but you've been in so much support of so many other people throughout your life and go on to them what is the beginning of the God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference yeah so using that advice so the beginning of the or the end of the AA meetings like like I don't know it kind of falls in line with with what you're saying and
[00:24:41] just about being able to handle these situations with with people that don't have your best interest at heart and yada yada yada like you know just remember that like you know what if this is the only life you get or you know or just live every life to its fullest carpe diem like do you have the time and the energy to give that person that is ultimately bringing you down but are they bringing you down or are
[00:25:10] you letting them bring you down bringing yourself down yeah you're bringing yourself down and so that's where that that God grant me the serenity you know and the wisdom to know the difference it's like okay I'm choosing to let this bring me down or I could choose right now to have the best fucking day ever maybe I should choose that like I can't fix this right now it's out of my hands I want to be the best person I can be and I'm gonna have a good day yes absolutely
[00:25:40] I think that's important it's like if you can control then let your emotions control that if it's something you cannot control like your ex if they're being awful to you or yapping in your ear something that you don't want to hear like can you control what's coming out of their mouth no focus on what you can control and you don't have to forgive them in that moment maybe time is what is going to grant that forgiveness because you know for you two being married as long as you were it wasn't the next day that you could say I
[00:26:09] forgive you it was years later and giving that grace and that patience to be where you are now you know what I mean I know with my ex and I like forgiveness didn't happen for years after we separated and got divorced and now we're in a place where we can have a cordial conversation and that's happy to me it's when's the wedding right dude like I'm trying to be serious we needed to laugh
[00:26:38] spin the wheel spin the wheel spin the wheel I got my dad joke yeah I want to hear it no but it does take time and sometimes we have to forgive ourselves for not being ready to forgive you know what I mean and when I think about forgiveness it's like what this elusive forgiveness what is it you know I've achieved what does it mean I think forgiveness
[00:27:06] for me is freedom from whatever the issue is from letting it affect me you know freedom from the pain and the suffering of whatever it is and so in every situation it might look different what do I need to gain freedom get my power back from this for some if if the intention is negative the the there are people who just
[00:27:34] want to see you suffer then the forgiveness might look the freedom retrieving that might look different than someone who needs the benefit of the doubt some people need boundaries some people need grace you know and so forgiveness is letting it go is surrendering to it in whatever way relieves you of it you know and so I think it looks different for every relationship and scenario I love that it was I was just
[00:28:03] thinking of something along those same lines and I'm seeing that it can tie really well together I think we'll see how this goes but I'll do the weave we'll be right back there but we look at forgiveness as like sometimes this monumental thing like we're working up to it to be like okay I forgive you and the other person feels relieved and then whatever you know and I think that forgiveness forgiveness probably works best as a constant practice and being someone who lives in the
[00:28:33] spirit of forgiveness because you're living then in the benefit of the doubt and there's not just it's not like something that needs to be achieved in order to move on it's just a way of being and if you can be somebody who lives their life in a way of benefit of the doubt for those around me and forgiving instantly almost like immediately like being able to do that then you hold on to a lot less because I think what happens is
[00:29:02] because we view it in that way of like it's a thing that needs to happen and I'm responsible for doing it this person was responsible for causing the need to do it it's like an opposing forces there that we have to then dissipate and that's not how it needs to be and what what I see a lot is we do that and we're like a year down the road something completely unrelated happens and it's like those feelings might still be there or it reminds you
[00:29:28] of a different situation and we we spend our time so often like not forgiving really truly because we're trying to work out something finally it's almost sometimes feels like okay I forgive you like I don't I don't want to deal with this anymore but we're not actually feeling that in our heart and so having a constant having an awareness that like because you forgive someone doesn't mean there
[00:29:56] should be an expectation even even from the other person that's been forgiven that you won't have those feelings again or that it won't be difficult again but that you're what you're saying to the person is I'm I'm gonna always do my very best to always just love you and forgive you and understand that you're doing your best and so if I get frustrated by something again if this comes up again know that I'm trying my best and that I see you and I know you're trying your best and I'm sorry that if it hits me in a different way or
[00:30:26] whatever it because we will forgive and move on and then never talk about it again or never if it comes up it's it feels uncomfortable or awkward like no no no no we already handled that and that's not how it has to be I feel like we can it can be an open flowing conversation of understanding and support for each other through living a life that is in forgiveness and even yeah like with being apologetic like if you're gonna say you're sorry then that
[00:30:54] behavior needs to stop yeah because you can't do it tomorrow and say I'm sorry again and then the next day and be like I'm sorry again and you're expecting that same person to forgive you when you have to say I'm sorry every day like there has to be that willingness to change and if you're like why won't you forgive me it's like well you won't change your behavior so that's and there's probably a difference between something like hey you cheated on me
[00:31:23] that can't happen you know as opposed as opposed to hey you said you were gonna do this thing and you forgot you know and that can be like like to have an expectation that you're never gonna do that again is creating negativity and dissonance that doesn't need to be there because we're all gonna forget and we're trying and what's the next you know like yes I do want to be better I want to make that happen less often you know but I can't
[00:31:51] be perfect I can be perfect in the world of not cheating on you like I understand that if I mess up with that and I mess up again after you've forgiven me once okay I get it you know but like if it's taking out the trash or doing this or whatever you know but at the same time you have to like be working at like it's a partnership you know and if if you're committing saying you're right I can be better I'm gonna try to my best to be remember more more remembering of these things then
[00:32:20] there should be improvement you know like it shouldn't just be the same thing over and over again for 50 years like you have to show progress for sure absolutely well if I mean even if it's something as simple as not taking out the trash so when you say that you're going to I mean there's got to be some kind of different effort each time showing that you're you know I can't just shrug your shoulders and be like sorry I'm human and it is just taking out the trash it's not
[00:32:47] like I'm cheating or anything you know it's like when if our kids make the same mistake over and over and over again like like sleeping in too late you know okay well if one alarm didn't work what are we gonna do this time we're gonna do two alarms this time yeah we're gonna do a homing pigeon like we're gonna like you've got to try something different because what happened last time didn't work and in my opinion although I don't do it perfectly because I make mistakes and I
[00:33:16] forget shit that I promise you know but you know if you forget to take out the trash more than once then you should be trying something new to remember it well that's how you demonstrate that you give a fuck absolutely what's the effort what's the what are you trying to do to change you know not just being like oh sorry forgot again mommy I'm just a preacher man yeah great at it I just have the good ideas I think we hold on to the things that hurt us because it helps us
[00:33:45] feel like we're safe if they hurt us again we can sling this thing at them but it really is causing us so much suffering so much sickness so much literal fatigue and exhaustion draining of energy feeling all this resentment and they're they're fine at what's the saying of like a lack of forgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die you're like causing all of this rumination and suffering and they're fucking fine they're
[00:34:14] living their life doing their thing and you're like that motherfucker you know it's like you're suffering your suffering so that you can hold on to this so that you can sling the mud at them if you ever need to this leverage that we hold on to it's all an illusion it doesn't keep us safe and if we realize that our lack of forgiveness forgiveness is truly causing us the suffering it helps motivate us to start to figure out how do I let this go how do I free
[00:34:44] myself from this that's real can you do me a solid and just edit in the like with just a little stint of let it go is it from tangled let it go throw it in there yeah let it go as we've said it a couple times so yeah it'll be cute let it go copyright issues it's great yeah well I forgive all of you
[00:35:12] just kidding like that like that we move on just kidding thanks for please forgive all of me for all of my mistakes there's actually a Hawaiian prayer that that helped me heal myself I teach it to clients for mirror work it's like a shamanic Hawaiian prayer called ho'oponopono and it's like the prayer is I am sorry please forgive me I love you I thank you
[00:35:41] and so to look myself in the eyes in the mirror I wept as I looked myself in the eyes and said I'm sorry please forgive me I love you I thank you and to do that with your partner or a friendship not even necessarily in person physically but in your heart and in your consciousness to truly understand that if that person caused you pain you've probably caused them pain too and to own that and to to also find gratitude for
[00:36:10] whatever this is because it is a gift from the universe that is weirdly wrapped you know but it's a gift and so I feel like there's a lot of value to all of these issues and tensions that we that we find ourselves in and if we can find a way to have gratitude for it we can find more peace with it quickly you know I like it better nice I love Puerto Rico
[00:36:38] I don't get it oh wait that's a different prayer tell us that one too and Christopher's mom she's Mexican and she said it a little different but my Spanish stepmom that's how she said it actually I was reading a random article about Gene Hackman dying last night or whenever he passed away and and it said
[00:37:08] so-and-so spokesperson from da-da-da medical place Chris Ramirez says it'll be several weeks before we get the reports back it was in Mexico that's Chris yeah that's crazy I was like I think I'm friends with that guy yeah that's him wait what because he died in New Mexico Gene Hackman but Chris is reporting I don't know they they quoted him the report reporter quoted him saying you know it'll be four to six weeks before the toxicology
[00:37:36] reports come back hey we know that guy Christopher that's awesome yeah one time Donald Trump retweeted Chris's news story about the border in New Mexico but like in a way I think that was not meant the story wasn't meant for he was like like a positive thing and it was pretty funny I think it showed though the neutrality of Christopher as a reporter you know like
[00:38:03] that that anybody can take this and share it as neutral information I don't know I thought yeah I agree a hundred percent I just remember being like did Donald Trump just tweet my friend's news story and the kids were on Christopher's news story one time testing candy they he had edibles like different that are supposed to look
[00:38:32] like the regular candy like geese's or nerds and he wanted the kids to like guess and then they ate the edibles it was a whole time I remember that I am that's when it all started yeah downhill from there Uncle Chris I think it's time to spin that wheel spin the wheel who's got a dad joke today and also Jake gets to pull a thing what how much time are we at right now
[00:39:00] we're probably getting there okay we got a little we're not too bad here we go spin it yeah I love that it's touching it yeah AJ what is it the joke the dad joke dad joke I said joke too okay did we accidentally sell those up to and put those no you're supposed to have your own dad joke yeah yeah mine were printed and
[00:39:28] they're in here even better there's dad jokes in here and so are I yeah I printed six jokes for myself and I think we cut them and put it in with the questions that was great super I came prepared I did come prepared but before I prepared for everything I'm here I'm so proud before the dad joke did you guys see the bakery that burnt down on the 17 this morning no I guess everything's toast
[00:39:54] I guess it's the 51 both ways I was like did we go down on the 17 I told Jake one last night and he was like next time who draws my question cause you did the two truths
[00:40:24] and I'm lying for God what was the joke yeah let's hear pretty rough wasn't it oh yeah did you hear did you hear that the guy that invented cough the presence passed away oh no what yeah there was no coffin at his funeral
[00:40:47] I absolutely love corny dad jokes I laugh so hard that it's embarrassing I feel like I have to mute I think I heard you wrong I could have sworn like she there was no coffins or something like that there was no coffins
[00:41:15] like it would have been really funny if it was there was no coffin at the funeral that was fucking funny I'm like what's your problem plurality can ruin everything I was also like bouncing in jokes and politics I was bouncing with grand baby like I was preoccupied you were busy I'm sorry okay I'll forget that's really funny good work baby okay should I draw a thing before we go I forgot that he did the two truths and lies alright so wait what is this your drawing
[00:41:41] okay so these are listener questions that are all are written by chat GPT long time listener okay yes you're so smart and there are accidentally six dad jokes in here that's fun it's like not a question it's just a dad joke exactly alright some are serious some are not serious what's something your kid has repeated to others that totally embarrassed you
[00:42:12] man I don't get easily embarrassed me at the store I was gonna say it's not necessarily repetition but just you coming up with your own shit is great yelled at my kids or gotten mad at them when they were little and then they like mentioned it like when you were yelling at me and I'm like you know but yes for sure when Jonah was even before two I think I don't know but he was
[00:42:40] maybe at the most two years old we were at the grocery store and he the cashier was a beautiful wonderful nice person but it was hard to tell their gender and Jonah looked at him and said do you have a penis just like me? so good and it was a woman it was a woman and then there was another time yep there are two where what did you say I think you just literally
[00:43:10] yes yes I was thinking of another time there are plenty of times where Jonah speaking of Uncle Chris one time he's all your arms are too hairy he was two years old and then another time we went to visit AJ's work boss was this man that you know whatever and he's like and I was eight months pregnant with our youngest and he's like
[00:43:38] do you have two babies in your belly? and I was mortified so Jonah's put me in some hilarious moments yeah but three it's like throughout Jonah's whole life he has kept us laughing hysterically with his humor and his wittiness and he was talking before he understood what was appropriate
[00:44:06] because he was literally just like talking in full sentences at 18 months old so he's just making observations and it was really funny yeah tastes like delicious yes so cute you're the best Jonah yeah thanks indeed we appreciate you and feel free to send us your questions and then next time next episode we will be discussing I think where it all began
[00:44:35] we're gonna kind of go back to the beginning and talk about before we were getting along and what that was like and kind of leading up to the next episode which will be this part where we're actually getting along hey we did it so alright okay for you to stop it well you can say bye and then I'm gonna clap again so I can no where find out the second video oh okay
[00:45:04] should we stop recording and then start so they're not such big files for the next record okay bye thanks for being here