In episode 23, we discuss the dynamics between step parents and children in the households. Who does the disciplining? And can we please just get rid of the word step....UGH!
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[00:00:27] Welcome! Welcome, welcome. And to answer your question, I think the clap is gonorrhea. Is it? Yes! Well, the clap is easier to spell, is it not? I think that's why they can do it. I never wanna get that again. It's like Riz for charisma.
[00:00:59] I bet it does actually, yeah. That's so funny and nerdy. I thought Riz was like a cool person word, not like, he has charisma. It made it more exciting for me, so now I feel dumb. I was like, yeah, that sounds great! I'm like tearing up from laughing, this is amazing. How was all this thievery of the introduction? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, this is my fucking episode. This is my fucking episode. I was trying to be helpful and you're right, I overset my bounds. I apologize as well. I'm hot.
[00:01:28] Jay Kizzle for Rizzle. That's right. Where does that come from? I don't know. Okay. But everybody at work, when they see me like walk by, they're like, oh, Tizzle for Rizzle! Oh, like Overtime? Yeah! I mean those are my operating initials. OT! It's OT, but yeah. So when I'm on overtime, they think that's, oh Tizzle's on O Tizzle! Double O Tizzle! It's always happening! Inception O Tizzle! He's gonna buy us some good fizzle for Rizzle! That's food!
[00:01:59] What do you usually get when you buy everyone food? Uh, lately it's been Sweetheart's Donuts from Anthem. Yum! You're keeping it local, that's nice. Way to support! Did they pay us for that advertisement? That's a what? Oh yeah, we're sponsored. Did they pay us for that advertisement? Oh, well we'll bleep it out until they do. Give us free donuts.
[00:02:23] One thing I like about Sweetheart's Donuts is that they, similar to Bluebell Ice Cream, how they advertise that they're still a half gallon. Oh! Because all the other ice cream companies have reduced to three quarters of a half gallon or whatever the hell they've done. That's good, because they are being sneaky about that. Unbelievable. Just getting smaller and smaller. Yeah, so Sweetheart's Donuts still has a standard sized donut, but all the other ones around here, all the different donut places- Shrinking the donuts?
[00:02:52] They're shrinking their donut, but keeping the price the same or ratio the same. Call me donuts. Wow! The reception- Recession is- The reception- When's the wedding? Oh my god, I'm really just kidding. I keep hearing- Someone tell me if you've heard this. I keep hearing that strip clubs are an indicator of recessions. Apparently that's a real thing. Like more- More attendance? Yes, yeah. Attendance?
[00:03:19] Because, like, these men become more stressed out, argue with their wives more, do all this blah blah blah blah blah blah whatever, and so they, like, if they have a hundred bucks instead of going out to drinks with their buddy, they go to the strip club. Wow! That's really interesting. Apparently it's a thing. Well I'm happy for the strippers. If they want to make their money, let them make their money. No recession for the strippers. Uh, welcome to episode 23.
[00:03:45] I'm the only one in the group that has been married to every single person in this group. That is- Except for AJ. True. Well, we'll see. Wait, I can make that happen. Yes! I can fix that! What's it called? Ordained minister. She can do both. First you'd have to divorce him first, and then we would get married. Are you going to make us stand the whole time? You have to stand for AJ and Jake's ceremony. Are you guys going to do the Backstreet Boys duet at your wedding? Uh, yes.
[00:04:15] We'll probably go to the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere first. Yes. What are you going to do for your honeymoon? Can we come? Yeah, absolutely! I'm inviting us! We can get married on your birthday, because that's when Backstreet Boys in Vegas is. Perfect! Okay! You know we're planning the whole thing, so we get to come. Chapa Olave. Yes. Uh, yeah. The Elvis wedding. Ring bearer! Yeah. Are you going to tell us about your new friend that you made today that texted you?
[00:04:42] Yeah, I was just telling a story right before. But I love to respond to numbers that text me that are wrong. And on Monday somebody texted me and said, Hey, I heard from my assistant that you really like to go jogging. So I looked up the area code and it was New York. And I was like, this feels like a big New York City boss type. I'm gonna respond.
[00:05:10] And so I responded and said, sounds good to me, sure! With an exclamation point. And they said, okay, sounds good. And then I said, perfect, I'll be ready at 5.55. Because they said, no, they said sounds good to be there at 6. And so I said, perfect, I'll be ready at 5.55. And they said, okay, sounds good. And then they didn't text at all until today when I texted them and said, what happened yesterday?
[00:05:39] And they said, excuse me, this is Anna. Is this Amy's phone number? And I said, I see the problem here now. To which I'm pulling this all from a mental light picture of the text. You're doing amazing! He has a photographic memory. From, to which she said, thank you for not making me feel bad for my mistake. Something like that.
[00:06:12] Oh no, she said, sorry for her mistake. And I said, don't be sorry, I've enjoyed this interaction. And she said, okay, thank you for not making me feel bad for my mistake. The world is a better place because of you with two smiley faces. And we've really changed lives here today, guys. That is a really beautiful story. Hey, hey! Good job. That's a lot nicer than some of the others. Would you like Tiff to appreciate the weather? I'm worried she'll give me the clap. Not Tiff. No, it's good. The medication worked.
[00:06:41] In New York. I mean, you should at least go jogging. Yeah. Like, try it out. Yeah. Early morning jog. See how it goes. See if there's a little spark. Veronica and I are going to try this new fact called jogging. Or perhaps it's yawging. I'm not sure Jay is silent. But apparently all you do is just run. For extended periods of time. Anchorman! And typically you end up with a clap.
[00:07:32] Emotionally. I know I had acupuncture. It's acupuncture's fault. It always brings everything up. It was good. It was good relief. I just wish I knew what we were talking about today. We never made it through the intro. I wish someone would introduce us. We are going to discuss step-step children and how that works with discipline. The answer is seamlessly and no problems. Yeah.
[00:08:01] We got this. Easy peasy. Yeah, we don't have any. No dysfunction here. Nope. Not here. Yeah. Well, we've been doing the step-parenting thing since 2011. And it hasn't been easy. That is for sure. We are here. And I feel like we've learned a lot through it. So, man, I wish I could go back. It's always that way. Like, man, we would do so much better. I am.
[00:08:31] To every subject. I wouldn't let our kids, like, pit us against each other so much. In the early days with Tiff, I remember a lot of like, and I think it comes, it was the same with our kids with AJ when AJ was new to the picture too. Where it's like, you're not my parents. There's a resistance. There's, it takes a long time to figure out, you know, accepting discipline, accepting difficult interactions.
[00:09:00] And so they would come to me and they would tell me things like, Tiff did this or she said this or whatever. And then of course I'm like protective and I'm like, okay, you know, and we have always done a really good job. I feel like of, would you agree? Of staying grounded and even giving each other the benefit of the doubt and the clap. Couple times. I wonder what the name of those other things would be.
[00:09:27] But still it was like, you know, and I do, I remember being like, you need to respect her. That is your step-mom, but it gets you, it's hard. It's not easy. You become protective of your kids and, and it's tricky to figure out who is supposed to do the, the disciplining when, when our kids were little and AJ entered the picture.
[00:09:55] I, I thought it was appropriate for him to do some of the disciplining. And I wish I, if I could go back, I, we would do that differently. I think. Absolutely. Uh, yeah. I mean, I agree with all of it. And the thought I immediately had when I knew this is what we were talking about was that my experience has taught me that for me, step-parenting is literally the hardest job in the world.
[00:10:22] So parenting compared to step-parenting, like when you're talking about parenting your biological children is exponentially easier. And it's because I think a lot of it for us specifically is like, there's like, and maybe it's the way we were brought up. I don't know. But it was almost like it just felt like, okay, well, what we need to do is be parents
[00:10:47] equally to all of these kids because we're trying to blend this family and we don't want it to be like someone favors someone or someone, you know, like it, it had like an aspect of fairness to it and appropriateness that felt like, oh yeah, this is what you're supposed to do. And I don't believe that anymore. I think that, I think that it can work and maybe in some situations it does. Maybe there's, there are relationships or kids who would receive it, you know, better.
[00:11:14] But I think it, I, my guess would be that the vast majority of people would be much better off not trying to insert a new step-parent as the same role as a biological parent. Like, I think we've found that for us, it worked really well when we're like, okay, when it comes to discipline, we are just going to discipline our biological children. That doesn't mean we don't talk about it. That doesn't mean we're not on the same page or that we, you know, don't come to an understanding first because we do.
[00:11:43] It's just that it doesn't need to come from a step-parent for us. Like the way, and we took way too long to figure that out. That was probably, I don't know, five years ago when we really adopted that. It could have been a couple of years earlier, but, but to, I mean, we really 100% were adopting it by, you know, 20, 19, 20, 20.
[00:12:07] And it was, in my opinion, one of the best ones we ever made because it just, I think it helps the kids a lot more. Um, just my opinion again. And from my perspective to not have a step-parent who's like trying to be, okay, well you did this. Now this is a consequence. It's just like, I'll offer my advice and my thoughts, but your mom's got it, you know?
[00:12:31] And it allows for a more comfortable relationship and it's easier to have more trust and more um, willingness and it's, it's just easier to have a relationship in my opinion between step-parents and step-children when you're not a core discipliner of them. At least for me. That's how it worked. Yeah, I like that. Agreed. Should we try that? Okay. Too late. No, I agree 100%.
[00:13:00] I think it's, I remember when you guys started that and I feel like, I don't know, in a lot of cases we are pretty similar. I don't know. I guess, I don't really feel like I'm a disciplinarian. I'm a lecturer. Yeah, I wouldn't. Which is the discipline. I wouldn't say I discipline. I hate the word step. Step, first of all.
[00:13:25] Like I don't want to call them my step kids, but like I don't feel like I discipline them any differently than I would my biological children. Like if something's going on and it's in the moment and because I am the one that's home with all the kids for the most part. It's like if something's going on, I'll reprimand it. But as far as a consequence and discipline, that's, we still have a conversation and then we bring the child in for lecture with dad. And that's punishment for all of us.
[00:13:55] Everybody's. I love you, but. And to be clear, our, our, it is if we're both there because I'm not putting up with shit from anybody. If AJ's not there to handle it, I'm handling it, you know? So, but like you're saying too, it's a conversations and really our parenting styles just evolved
[00:14:21] so much that it's just a whole lot of conversations happening, but there is discipline for sure. And it, it probably is even still with our older kids. It's usually given by the biological parent or whatever, but yeah, I think conversations with step kids is, and again, I don't like to use word step too, but we have to differentiate for the sake of this conversation.
[00:14:48] But we kind of have, I've tried to adopt the, the feeling and relationship of like it, almost like an auntie, you know, to my step kids. Um, one of my step kids does not currently speak to me right now and that sucks. Um, and that's been a struggle and we're still trying to figure all of that out. Um, but as I've tried to navigate step parenthood, that is the approach that I've worked to take
[00:15:16] is as somebody who is supportive and loving and nonjudgmental and open. Um, and then there, if they make a mistake, you can deal with your dad for the hard part of that. And I get to be the one that gives comfort and advice. Not that your dad's not going to be super comforting, comforting in the way he disciplines too. But I just think that it is a relief to both the step parent and the step child
[00:15:44] to adopt that kind of relationship where it's like bonus parent, not authoritarian. And I think if, you know, if people have this advice, have these ideas towards the forefront of the relationship, you know, of the whole, of the, the step parent getting to know their new step kids. Yeah. And I think that's probably the most important time to not be the disciplinarian is the first
[00:16:12] year, two, three years, um, when you're really establishing that relationship to get completely comfortable with each other than, you know, and there's a mutual respect. I feel like, uh, it opens up the possibility, you know, to being able to discipline your step kids. Like if that, if there's a rock solid foundation already there. Yeah. Trust.
[00:16:43] Yeah. I think the other aspect we were wanting to talk about is just like step parents, step child relationships. And what I'm navigating right now is feeling like I want that, that relationship, but there are things outside of my control that just don't allow that. And, and for me, the challenge has been to just stay open and stay loving and stay kind
[00:17:13] and, and to hope that, that, that relationship will come around one day. And we've all had our individual step parenting relationships with each one of our kids. And I'm extremely grateful for the progress and the relationships we have with all of the rest. And I just have hope for all of them to be peaceful someday. Me too.
[00:17:42] But we can't have it all, you know, not all, all, all the time. Yeah. One thing to keep in mind, um, just depending on the age of, of the kids, like they might, you know, it's like they might have a desire to have a relationship with the step parent, but, um, on some sort of level they feel like they're cheating on their biological parent. Yeah.
[00:18:09] And I was like, I don't want to love this dad because, because then I feel like I'm cheating on my real dad, you know, that kind of thing. Yes. So that's very real. Very real. And something that we need to be mindful of and be okay with. Mm-hmm . Agreed. Yes. And be aware of to always do our best to protect our children from ever feeling that way.
[00:18:35] Like they have to choose or, or like they feel like if they give one parent love that the other one might not love them, that's very dangerous territory for a child to emotionally and mentally be in. And so, yeah, to have compassion for that when it's happening and then to also have an awareness that we never want to create those situations.
[00:18:59] I think it's important to the, in the same vein, like literal behavior from kids towards step parents. Um, not in the way of like misbehaving or like being rude or whatever. Like that's a different thing where it's your, you know, like you were saying, like really supporting the step parent when you know that it's healthy, it's just a difficult situation. Um, you know, supporting both the child and the separate, that separate, like their egos
[00:19:28] get wrapped up so much. We've talked about so many things involved with like your first divorcing and how you're worried about their safety and the way I do it's right. And like all these things, the same thing happens as soon as that new person comes into the picture. Like you have opinions about what that person is doing and who they are, whatever, you know. And it's so, if you're not getting along like with those people, it's really important that
[00:19:51] you, that that stays with you, you know, that it's never to the kids because it creates worlds for them that they view as reality. And all it is, is your opinion of your ex or of your ex's new partner or whatever it is. And the reality is, especially if you're not spending time with them and getting to know them or, you know, whatever it is, you don't know them. And your opinion could be very wrong and just based in fears and everything you have.
[00:20:20] And so I think keeping that away from kids and allowing kids to progress through those relationships themselves at the way, at the pace they think is appropriate. So like, for example, if your child goes over to your ex's house with the new stepparent or, you know, the new person that's been around a couple months, whatever, you know. And I think it happens a lot with like younger kids or whatever. But like, and they say like, oh, I have a new dad too, or whatever.
[00:20:49] Or I have a new mom or whatever, you know. You know, two things. Very important. It never comes from parents. Like parents should never be like, oh, this is your new dad. This is your new, whatever, you know. You need to call him dad. And like, for you personally. Call your dad AJ dad. Yeah. For you personally, if you struggle with it, it's a practice in allowing them that space to figure things out on their own.
[00:21:16] You know, like my, you know, in most cases, you know, some, a five year old who's making you feel bad because they're calling another stepparent, you know, dad or mom or whatever it is. Or making you feel bad for any other way. Like they're five years old too, you know. And they're gonna probably when they're 16 be like, yeah, I know that's my stepdad. I know this is my dad. I know this is my dad. And it's all okay and beautiful and doesn't even need a conversation if you've just allowed
[00:21:44] for that space for them to just feel comfortable. I mean, they're already, they've gone through a divorce. They'd only see one parent half the time or whatever it is. Like the more comfort you can allow for them to just be free to say what they want, feel how they want about somebody, whatever. And it's tricky, but I think it helps. Absolutely. And I feel like my perception of it, like I've been on both sides of the playing field.
[00:22:13] Like I'm so lucky to have Toby as a, like a co mama because you were ingraining in the kids. Like you need to respect her. You need to be kind. And you were giving me that benefit of the doubt as the biological mom. You were like on my side. Um, whereas for my ex-husband and the women he was dating, I didn't know them. I couldn't give them the benefit of the doubt.
[00:22:38] And when my children were in his care, it was difficult because I'm just like, I know this person's name. I don't know what she looks like, which none of that even really matters. But that is how little information I had on these people. And I'm like, they're to be caring for my children. And I don't know what to think. Like that was very, very difficult for me. And it was over the summer months. So it wasn't a long time, but you know, the kids would come back and they would be like,
[00:23:08] you know, this happened and this happened and this happened. And I'm like, well, now it's too late and you're back with me safe and sound. What do I do? You know? So it's, it's, I'm grateful for what I've experienced over the last few years and having the relationship I do with Toby. But on the other side, if you don't know, it's, what do you do? You know, it's so uncomfortable and it's so like a feeling of just being unsafe. And these are your babies. These are your kids, you know?
[00:23:38] And then all you have to go off of is what they're saying. Exactly. Not getting communication from other parents. And you see how quickly the healthiness factor in a blended divorce family or just a family going through divorce, how quickly it becomes so difficult if there's not communication, if there's not working together, if there's not, everything gets blown out of proportion. Big, little things turn into huge things. Huge things turn into life altering.
[00:24:08] It'll never be the same things, you know, because we're not working together to resolve it and make sure the kids are good. Mm-hmm. And we know like we love our children, but we know they can be storytellers. Yes. So we... Little kids especially. Yeah, like, oh my gosh, like I was beaten and it was like I bumped into the child. Yeah. So it's like you want to believe your children, but at the same time it's like... Oh, sorry. What's valid, what's not valid? And you're just scared and don't know.
[00:24:37] Yeah, it's tricky and every situation is so different and we are certainly not experts on every situation or anything. But I think one other thing that is just really important, especially when the kids are little, like our kids were when we came together, is to not like try and manipulate or force any kind of relationship with the kids and this new step parent, you know, like to not push them together
[00:25:06] just the same way as like not forcing them to say the name, but even just like, why don't you guys, you know, of course you can encourage whatever, but being pushy or guilt tripping or on the other end making them feel bad for spending time with the new step parent when they come home. Right. All of those things just be positive and encouraging and even in your questions, kids are so fricking
[00:25:32] intuitive and they know if your questions are even with the intention to just dig and pick or if your questions are just to be supportive and loving, you know? So, yeah, just be as supportive as you can to the step parental relationship. I think that if we had had support from the other mom in our situation, we could have had what we have, you know?
[00:26:01] And had so, like why not be one big happy family? Why not just love each other, be open to each other, be non-judging, give each other the benefit of the doubt, have fun together? Why not? Um, and so I hope we can inspire other people to, to be kind to your ex's new partner. Just be kind, be kind about them with your child. Give them the benefit of the doubt.
[00:26:28] Even if you hear something negative about them, you know, it, it really helps for everyone. Especially the kiddos. One of our children has a friend whose parents are going through a divorce and we've just watched as it's been really difficult for him to have that situation happening and new people coming
[00:26:54] in and anger between parties and parents and things and it's tough. So yeah. It's heartbreaking to watch a little child who is so sweet and so cute and so smart and so cool, just watch their little spirit get dimmed because the parents can't figure out how to put them first, you know? And so, ah, and we all look back on our time and think, oh, if we could only go back.
[00:27:24] So it's a blessing to be sitting here. It almost helps me heal to feel like maybe I'm helping some other mom who was young like me to be a little more gentle with her children than I was. That feels good, you know? Absolutely. Yes, for sure. Well, thanks guys. Yeah. Not till I have a joke. Who's telling a dad joke? Oh! Oh, we, we just skimmed right through that today. We need a joke for sure. Lighten this mood up. Hold please. Ready? Boom.
[00:27:53] We need a, we need a wheel song. One of Jonah's songs. Miss me all the time. I've been out of this joke for weeks. Yay!
[00:28:25] Reboots? That was gonna be my answer, yeah. Unplugs. I'm so grateful you-
[00:28:55] Probably get it off her chest. Yes, well we also have the question. Oh yeah! So who does that? Who did it last? Uh, three lies and we pick which one we wish was the truth. Yeah, let's do that game. I like that. I'm rich. We're all confused. Uh huh. Which is funny because my sister called me out the other day and she's like, so I watched the episode where it was your two truths and a lie. And she's like, technically you told two lies. Oh! Oh!
[00:29:23] She's like, you weren't actually skiing when the ski pole went in your neck. You were running across the yard. I'm like, I didn't even think I said I was skiing. But I'm like, A plus for you for listening, Angie. Yeah, you were listening close. Thanks for listening, Angie. We love you. The fact that a ski pole went through your neck counts as truth. Yeah. Oh man. I'll take it as a truth. Let's hear it. Who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be? Yeah, do it. Wait, real quick.
[00:29:50] I wanted to say, when we were talking about what this episode was about, and we were talking about not pressuring the kids when it comes to relationships and stuff like that. Yeah. Like, just letting stuff come naturally. Like, it bugs the shit out of me. It doesn't have to like, have to do with steps, but it bugs the shit out of me when parents make their children feel obligated to be affectionate towards other family members. Yes.
[00:30:19] Like, go hug your grandma. Go hug your uncle. Go do this. Go do that. Any kind of physical contact. Fucking stop doing that. Stop it. Stop doing it. Stop doing it. Amen, amen. Stop. You don't know if Uncle Joe's getting a little handsy with those hugs. Yeah, and I'm honestly grateful that we, my oldest sister Brynn was, she took parenting classes and taught parenting classes and she actually, I'm pretty sure it was her who told me that when my kids were little.
[00:30:45] And so we never made our kids hug people if they, I think, as far as I remember. And I'm really grateful. It's so common. So common. And it's just because it's tradition. Yeah. It's tradition to be respectful, to make the little kid go around and give everybody hugs. It's ridiculous. And it needs to stop. Oh, yeah. I was definitely brought up that way. And part of my upbringing was like Italian. And it was like, it wasn't just a hug. It was like a smooch.
[00:31:14] So it was like, make sure you're giving your hugs and your kisses. And. Oh, yeah. Oh, nah. First base in every family reunion. Speaking of the clap. Jesus. Hey. What is it? Tongue or church tongue? What do you people say? Church tongue. Church tongue. A little church tongue from grandpa. That's a little. God. No, I don't think that's what we people say at all. What are you talking about? Ray, but it's. That's a grandpa.
[00:31:44] Yeah. It's just a funny quote from Wedding Singer. That's all. She's like talking about how she wants to kiss at her wedding. She's like, not porno tongue. At church tongue. At church tongue. Yeah. That makes a lot more sense. Okay. So the question for today is, what's one simple shift people can make today to start healing their co-parenting relationship?
[00:32:13] Ooh, simple shift. Simple shift. I almost said simple shit. I had to like really. What's some simple shit that you can do? I had to say that slowly. What's some simple shit? What's some simple shit we can do? What's some simple shit? What is some simple shit? Yeah. Give us some simple shit. Now I forgot what the real word is. Yeah, I have no idea what the question is. What's one simple shift people can make today to start healing their co-parenting relationship? Like a transition. Yeah.
[00:32:43] A simple one. Today. You know, some simple shit. To heal their relationship. I think. And we used it in this kind of like giving the benefit of the doubt. Yeah. It's simple and like it doesn't, you know, it's like that muscle thing. It takes more muscles to frown than smile. Like it's not that hard. You just have to listen and be understanding and not judgmental. So easy. Come on. Yeah. You got it. Jump on this bandwagon.
[00:33:10] And we do hear something awful from the kids that you need to bring up with the other parents. Like you can easily word it in like, you know, you can preface it with like, I know that the middleman is a kid and kids tell stories and kids embellish. Like, I want to tell you what I heard and I would like to hear what your opinion is or like, what's your side of the story on what, on what went down instead of what naturally
[00:33:39] we want to do, which is to just cast that stone. Yeah. Like AJ was saying earlier. Until they're down and out. Big stone caster. A whole lot of big rocks. Yeah. Boulders. That's what it says. Bows, arrows, whips, chains. Uh-huh. Bow staff. Like when your kiddos come home from dad's house this coming weekend and they're like, we're going into a recession. Daddy was at the strip club. Yeah. Don't judge him. Ask questions. Exactly. Give him the benefit.
[00:34:08] The BOD. It could have even been a male strip club. You know, you don't know. You don't want to. The first strip club I ever went to was an all-male gay strip club in Puerto Vallarta. And I, you guys know this story. Yeah. It's a good one. But I was with a bunch of men and they wanted to go to this male strip club where they had a shower show. A shower show. A shower show. Men in the shower.
[00:34:34] And so I was in a little club in dress and some stilettos and my friend in Spanish was like, will you let our drag queen friend in? And the bouncer let me in. She passed. And that was the first strip club I ever went in as a drag queen. Look at that. That was a fun night. I think we need a whole episode on just strip club stories because we've got some good ones.
[00:35:01] Yeah, honestly it's like, am I proud that I have so many strip club stories? I don't know. It's okay though. It's okay though. Life is meant to live. Okay. Or just drag queen clubs because BS West is a good time. Yes. A drag show. I love more than a strip club. That's true. For sure. Honestly, I haven't been to a strip club in more than two years. It's been a long time. Maybe? I think maybe more than five. More than three. More than four. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. But we have a history.
[00:35:30] That was the last time we argued. Recession. Yeah. I think we need to utilize that Scottsdale timeshare and go have some fun. Now you're talking. We need a night on the town guys. Now you're talking. What are you guys doing after this? Let's start a recession. Ta ta. I did not look that up. That's fine.
[00:36:00] We'll figure it out next week. We'll give you the recap of our night. Yeah. The hangover style. Day two. Thanks guys. Nine kids. I'm queer.